Last week was a rare losing week where I went 2-2 on posted free picks. Despite this loss we’re still having an outstanding season. Heading into week 12 our record on 2007 NFL posted free picks is 33-17 for +15.37 units of profit.
I looked hard at the Thanksgiving games for value this week and I’m having trouble finding it, so lets start the 2007 Week 12 NFL predictions with the games I like the most this week.
Minnesota Vikings @ New York Giants
The Vikings are no doubt a great team at both running the ball and stopping the run. I’ll make no excuses in that regard and be the first to give them credit for what they’ve accomplished in those areas. The problem for the Vikings is that their one dimensional offense and defense is on the road against a Giants team who is fairly well balanced in most aspects. If the Giants were healthier on offense then I’d expect the Giants would be favored by 11 points or so in this one. I think there playing well enough defensively and Coughlin is doing a good job making adjustments that the Giants will still show up and cover here.
The Giants have a strong run game and an average pass game, but when they go up against the Vikings defense their pass game should produce better than average results, which hopefully allow their strong rushing attack to produce.
All the Vikings wins this season have come against below average to poor run defenses. When they’ve faced strong run defenses (Packers, Dallas, Eagles etc) they’ve struggled. The Giants are balanced defensively, but their strength is stopping the run. I don’t think the Vikings have the talent to come from behind in this game. If they can run the ball and manage the clock they might have a chance but I consider this to be unlikely.
My math model has the Giants favored by 7.73 points in this game after adjustments and I’ve seen predictors show them as high as 9.5. It’s interesting that last week the Vegas Hilton opened this line at 10 a week in advanced.
I felt this play had good value @ 7, but with Bet Jamaica having the -7 @ -105 and the fact they offer ½ points at 10 cents, I consider this a very strong play at -6.5 -115.
Prediction: Giants 24 Vikings 16
My Pick: Giants -6.5 -115 (Bet Jamaica with ½ point buy) 1.73 to win 1.5 units
Tennessee Titans @ Cincinnati Bengals
This one seems to easy to me. I think this line has a lot to do with the fact that the Titans have struggled the past couple weeks and have some injury concerns. With the Titans having lost last week I think it’s likely they see what Haynesworth has left in the tank this week and he’ll play – this is not GTD but it’s a strong suspicion. This should be the true bounce back week for the Titans.
The Bengals defense is horrible and I think this should be a good opportunity for Young to build off his best passing game of his career. His two interceptions at the end of the game last week I’ll write off, because he’s still a young QB. Young was in a situation late in the game where he had to make something happen being down 14 and having the clock against them. Those passes seemed well worth the risk to me and Denver’s defense made a good enough read to pick each one off.
My math model has the Titans favored by 3 and predicts they’ll win straight up 59.1% of the time in this match up. Based on this stat I should be betting the Titans for multiple units but still having some valid concerns over Titans turnover problems. Not to mention their careless penalties lately and there past two weeks defensive performance. I feel that there is also enough chance that the math might be lying this week, so I’ll stick to just 1 unit where I feel very comfortable.
My Prediction: Titans 24 – Bengals 20
My Pick: Titans -1 -110 (Legendz) 1.1u to win 1u
2 Team 6.5 point teaser -120 @ Legendz
Leg #1 Packers teased to +3.5
Leg #2 Jaguars teased to -1
Teasing the Jaguars down to -1 has a ton of value – I’ll be honest though in saying that I might not have made this teaser if it was not for the need to find the best option to paid the Jags teaser with and liking the idea that that same best option gives me the only NFL Thanksgiving Day action I’ll probably have this Thursday. The Packers teased to +3.5 is only slight +EV @ -120 - despite the fact that their is plenty of historical evidence to show that teasing through the 3 two times @ -130 or better is about Neutral and with the Packers being listed at -3.5 -105 many places this is just like crossing the 3 two times. This teaser is only available right now at Legendz because they are one of the few sites to base the Packers/Lions line off the 3, currently Packers -3 -120.
I’m scaling this play down a little bit.
My play: 2 team 6.5 point teaser Packers +3.5, Jags -1 @ -120 odds | 0.90 u to win 0.75 u
I might have some other plays later in the week but for right now this is all that stood out as far as the early lines are concerned. As always check back in the week for potential add on plays.
***Please Leave Comments**** Last week 5,162 people read my NFL week picks and we had some great comments, but I suspect many others who did not post probably had something to add but didn’t for whatever reason (btw thx to those who did) I realize on most sites comment boxes simply get ignored, that’s not the case here. Feel free to start game discussion, ask questions, disagree with a pick or just say hello in the comments box.
*** Updates*** 11:15AM on Sunday Game Day
I found an interesting bet today at WSEX, 2 team pleaser (opposite of teaser, selling 6 points on each side). Texans pleased from +3.5 to -2.5 with Redskins teased for +3.5 to -2.5. This pleaser pays 6 to 1. I’ve done math on these type of wagers many times and found them to be -EV. This is a rare case where we have an edge with the true odds being about 5.45 to 1 and were being paid 6 to 1. I think this is certaily worth putting a small bet on. Note: I won’t count this in year to date records because small plays at +600 odds would make the ytd records become misleading because to this season so far its been done as straight win/loss and units +/- and has not been tracked with a weight system on the win/loss side.
Denver Broncos +100 @ Chicago Bears -110
I gave a little bit of the reasons behind this pick earlier in the week in my comments thread. These are two teams that should of been decent teams this year but had injuries that they’ve become mediocre teams at best. I see this is a classic case where we have an undervalued home team facing off against and overvalued road team. In such cases I’ll obviously put my money down on the home team.
Prediction: Broncos 16 Bears 20
My pick: Bears Moneyline -110 (Pinnacle) 1.1u to win 1u


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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackHey Jim,
Thanks once again for the post as well as the analytical synopsis of the games stated above.
Ok, after that Titans debacle, I’m playing for pride– I’ve posted my analysis and picks for all week 12 games on my site: http://www.picksvspoints.com/Weekly_Picks/Entries/2007/11/19_NFL_Week_12_Predictions.html
So far, I’m with you on the Giants and the Titans; but I’m confused by your teaser– why not just shop it at another book and end up +3,-1? Does Legendz offer bigger teasers on two picks or something– I’ve not looked at their site.
Loving the analysis– keep up the great work!
Hey jim what do yout hink about tommrows detroit vs Greenbay game, I know you like detroit but i dont think they ll be able to beat greenbay….and i think your totally on with the titans pik.
i don’t know if i agree with your jaguars pick, mainly because buffalo is very underrated, especially coming off a blowout loss to the pats. they have a solid squad defensively and are not horrendous on the offensive side.
Octopus, I am going to take a stab at responding to the teaser question as simple as I can, but not sure my response will come out very good. Let me know if you have questions on it or perhaps there is something I am missing on it as well.
Teasing to +3 would rarely have the needed value. Here is what I based the value on. The best line I can get right now on Packers -2.5 is -145 (Bet Jamaica with a full point buy).
When I pull historical data I determine the value of moving from -2.5 to +3.5 to be 17.92% additional percent likeliness of a win. (1.98% twice = each 2 | 2.5% twice = each 1, and 9.79% from +2 to +3.5).
A two team teaser at -120 has odds of -283 on each leg. -283 has a break even % of 73.9%
Take the line of -2.5 -145, we have a break even % of 59.18% needed
Add the 17.92% additional probability we get by teasing to +3.5 and we come to 77.1% = -337
The options of most profitable in order are:
Teaser to +3.5
Straight play at -3 -120
Straight play at -2,5 -145
Teaser to +3
So of the 3 proposed options so far teasing to +3.5 would be the best option,
The reason teasing to +3 does not have much value is that the push probability is to high and we still need to win the other leg.
I wrote an article here on strategy teasers. I had a hard time keeping it simple so in the article I did not even get into things like synthetic teasers let alone crossing the 3.
http://sportsbookprop.com/2007/09/teasers/
Basically the same thing mentioned about crossing the 3 and 7 in full applies also to crossing the 3, two times in full.
Jay,
I have the teaser play on the Packers but if I was going to be them straight up it would be at Legendz @ -120
Or if it was really inconvenient to get funded there I would play them -3 -125 at bookmaker or the same at Bet Jamaica with a half point purchase. This is the type of game though I would look to be signing up somewhere and using bonus cash if I was going to be it because I really think the true fair line is Packers -3 -113
There are some reasons I might be able to justify a spread bet on the Packers. Perhaps the short rest is not heavily factored into the line because both teams are coming off short rest – the Lions have certainly been in the tougher games as of late and are no fighting for their play off lives. The Packers on the other hand have won big and are pretty much GTD a spot in the playoffs. The D line of the Lions are the ones much more likely to suffer from a fatigue stand point.
Its hard to ignore the fact though that Detroit has to be extremely motivated for this divisional game at home on a big stage. They have a better than average pass offense and the Packers have a worst then average pass defense. This is marginal but certainly does not have me loving the packers or anything.
Again I think the line is pretty much spot on so I struggle to really find significant value at the current odds offered.
Jrock, thanks for your opinion. The Jag falls into a straight mathematical teaser play I can’t pass possibly pass on. I would need to research the game more if I was forced to pick at a 7.5 spread – I might also lean on the Bills but I can’t confirm that though right now.
Hey Jim,
Have been coming here for the last few weeks now, and must say, great analysis, and great picks. I was wondering about two match-ups this week: DEN @ CHI and HOU @ CLE. I play Pro-Line in Canada and the odds are as follows:
DEN 2.75 CHI 2.00
HOU 3.05 CLE 1.80
I was wondering who you liked in these games? I was leaning towards DEN at CHI, and at 2.75 I really like the odds.
Also, do you think there is any chance of Baltimore beating San Diego by more than 4?
tyl3r,
You should strongly consider signing up at Pinnacle, because pro line has mostly really bad odds.
For example take Cleavland at 1.8 @ Proline well at Pinnacle they are 2.18.
Houston @ 3.05 | Because sportsbooks do not have alternate lines yet i am not sure what will be offered but I would expect Houston -3.5 to be something like 3.93 ish.
Ravens as a pick at Pinnacle 4.77 would be way better than at -3.5 5.3 on Pro-Line.
I realize this isn’t exactly what your asking about but I just could not help but notice how bad the odds are and as someone who relies heavily on my gambling income to make a living I realize after looking at Pro-Line it is impossible to win at those odds long term because of the massive house edge built in.
If I had to chose any of those it would be Denver and the second choice would be Cleavland but I’m glad i am not forced to play at those odds.
Thanks for the reply Jim! I’m not a big gambler or anything like that, I enjoy just putting a little money on the line because it makes sunday all that more exciting. I guess I just should have asked for your analysis of those games instead. Oh well, thanks anyways! Will definitely keep checking your picks though!
At Pro-Line odds, would be as a suggested: Hesitant lean on Denver and Cleavland both but have a hard time mentally making a bet at those odds.
I would certainly stay away from the Ravens game on either side. Does the tie mean neither team wins by more than 3? so 1, 2 or 3 either team?
If that is the case then I would take the tie if I had to be that game at the available odds.
Yeah, if you pick a team to win, they must win by 4 or more, a Tie indicates a team wins by 3 or less points. It’s much harder to predict these results but there are always a couple I put my money on…
Hey Jim,
I have been following your picks since early in the year and I have to say they have been quite impressive. I started betting with you a couple months ago and have been quite successful. I havent had a chance to write anything till now. I like the Giants pick. As long as Manning isnt up against a solid team he can usually manage to keep his nerves level. Plus when Minnesota goes up against a team that has a solid enough run defense to stop Peterson from doing too much damage, they usually fall apart.
Anyways thanks for your picks.
Also i just noticed you posted picks for UFC.
I also had fisher in the fight. It was the only one i liked, based on the last stout fight, i thought he would take it. I also figured he would control the scrapping contest. Shitty.
P.S. What do you think of Cleveland at -2.5, -125.
And
Do you have any picks for Tursday, I cant see anything i really like all that much and Thanksgiving isnt the same without some football action to go with it.
What do you think of a two game teaser
Dallas -6.5
Indi -5.5
-130
What happened to my post?
One more comment
I was betting on DSI sportsbook a couple weeks ago and they were allowing parlays between fantasy H2H bets and team wagers
E.G. I took dallas to win over philly -110
Over -110
Romo -110
Owens -110
And played it as a parlay
The next week they eliminated the ability to parlay Fantasy with teams.
I think they might have determined that this was a correlated bet but im not 100% sure if that is the reason. Do you know anything about this or if their are any other sites that allow these types of parlays?
TheHotTuna, first time posts take longer to show up to everyone else because someone on our staff needs to approve them first. Regarding the UFC picks those are posted here by another capper we work with Jax Jackson, he is awesome at UFC, I’ll admit I don’t know much about the sport from a gambling perspective.
I don’t see really any +EV teasers using the two later games today. If I was looking to do a teaser for the purpose of action on Thanksgiving I guess I would go with.
10 point 3 team teaser
Jets +24.5
Colts -2.5
Bengals +11
This would be –EV but it would give good action. I like the Titans in the Sunday game but don’t see them winning by double digits very often there.
For non teasers (wish I would prefer over the teasers) - I would lean just taking the Jets +14.5 then taking the Under in the Colts/Falcons game. I suppose Jets +21.5 and Colts under 48 in a tease might not be so bad either if its available at -120 @ 5dimes.
I won’t be making any of those bets but if I was looking for Thursday night action just for the sake of action those would be the options I consider.
Re: Browns -2.5 -125 – Yeah, I like it – I would pay -125 for that bet but it’s the absolute most chalk I would pay for it.
Re: fantasy parlays – I know all the books I use don’t allow this (Pinnacle, Greek, 5Dimes, Bet Jamaica, Bodog etc) and I doubt there are any who do or would do for long. VIP.com last I used them did allow a lot of correlated game prop bets with spreads at one time – I don’t know now if they offer fantasy match ups or not but if I had to guess one place to check it would be them, but I would be very surprised if they do allow it.
Hey Jim,
What is your initial take on the Chicogo/Denver matchup?
Hey Jim and other posters,
What would you think of we got a forum set up?
Hichroc, I lean the Bears in this game from a betting stand point – as a fan I hope the Broncos win because that division is so pathetic right now.
The reason I lean Bears is because I think we have an overvalued team on the road in a close spread over an overvalued team.
Both teams have been plagued with injuries which took them from being decent teams (not great but not bad) to being mediocre teams at best so far this season. The Broncos are coming off 2 wins in a row though but once was against the Chiefs and the other was against a young Titans teams who is struggling with emotional effects of adversity (key injuries, key losses, qb’s sophomore slump with injuries etc etc) for the first time this season and for many of these players the first time in their pro careers.
I don’t believe the Bears are any worst of a team or Broncos is any better of a team because of recent performances and I don’t see there being a lack of determination or motivation on either side so really I think the Bears should be at least -3 in this game.
These two teams are so unpredictable though and each has the ability to highly exploit each others weaknesses that even at what should be a large edge I can see where this game might also be considered a coin flip as well.
I’ve been really busy with Thanksgiving yesterday, shopping then time with my daughter today that I have not get a chance to look really deep to see if there might be something I am missing. I’ll be giving this game a detailed look certainly on Saturday night or Sunday morning decide if it might be worth making a bet on. Right now my thinking is that I’ll probably pass on this game but if I was betting it I would go with the Bears (but with that said I am open to changing my mind and betting the Broncos too if I could find solid reason to show it has value).
I realize that’s not much but that’s my initial take anyways.
Aidan I got mixed feeling on that. I’ll talk to you about them later after I think about it some more.
If we do add one you or Jax or someone else would need to manage it because I know that I don’t want that job right now
Thanks once again Jim…once again the dept of the info noted will be once again useful.
Jim, thanks for the greenbay and detroit anaylis, Really apperiate it thanx…
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